Maybe in a next generation they can implement an optional solution analog to what we're already seeing f bicycle chains. Side-by-side, the EP8 motor is slimmer around the belly and so offers a skerrick more ground clearance. Thanks to lightweight magnesium components, Shimano has shaved off a cool 200g of weight making it one of the lightest electric bike motors on the market today. An E-bike with 200 watt power assist, 350 WH battery, and total weight of bike under 34 lbs. Rattling and lack of update to the battery monitoring is a no go for me, I would just upgrade the battery to the new 620s if i could fit it. If you aren't climbing steeps and requiring the torque, you would get way longer distance. What is rattling? With the new EP8, Shimano managed to close the gap to its biggest competitors. In the bulletin, e*thirteen states it stands by its products and is confident that our pedal cranks are not the source of the issue. Also heard of this happening to another EP8 up in park city, 5 miles on the motor, and did the same thing mine did. I think we lost grit when we all got smart phones. Unfortunately frenchies and Germans are not masters of marketing. We bought drive units and crank arms, we are replacing at our cost all damaged parts and are covering labor [and] shipping costs that might occur. The actual mechanism works well but is very easy to break, just turn the allen key the wrong way by mistake..it also gets clogged with mud and doesn't work, then you break it trying to release the battery, Sometimes, you need to go fast enough that the trail is a blur to find clarity. I found this beauty as an example: The reviewer weighs 55kgs. Plus the prices will drop as the tech becomes cheaper and can be offered at lower prices. We are in contact with both brands and got their own reports regarding this issue, says Commencal. I chose this bike because it has the EP8 and from research, seems to be the most reliable platform out there, assuming it's as reliable as the E8000. They deemed it a warranty and the motor has failed. Save 30% + G-Form Pro X3 Knee Pads when you subscribe to MBUK magazine. Then we'll fix that for you. You can hear the motor spinning and attempting to assist, but no power is delivered. Put on i9 Hydra hubs, annoying motor rattle sounds disappears. You still have the three basic assist modes: Eco, Trail and Boost. So many issues that can be simply solved by not having a motor. But it is not anywhere near the same engine in everything else. There are no reported cases of spindle breakage of DU-EP800 when assembled with Shimanos cranks. Why so delicate, bro? Make it 100 mile range, and I'm in. The Shimano EP8 RS of the Orbea Rise does not present physical differences concerning the EP8 that we can see mounted on other e-mtb's. Its dimensions and weight are the same. All you guys "waiting" to get a ebike are blowing it..the bikes are refined trek rail no problems..going around the country slaying every trail I see chugging beer and laughing at all u haters.. believe me I guys will all be on one sooner than later. The EM800 display features built-in Bluetooth and ANT+ wireless connectivity for pairing both your phone and a compatible GPS head unit, allowing you to display information such as battery life and remaining range. The Shimano EP8 RS motor, the key to the experience. These motors have Cadence sensors as well as torque sensors. @tomdesoals: I don't quite get it though. Instead, we recommend setting aside some time for a battery-drainer test ride, somewhere that is accessible and easy to ride out with a flat battery, in order to work out your maximum range you can get during typical riding conditions. In comparison, Shimano motors can be paired with third party batteries, and that opens up greater flexibility for bike designers (see the Orbea Rise and Pivot Shuttle for example). Overall its a vastly neater execution compared to the likes of Bosch and Yamaha with their Kinder Surprise-style switch units. Shimano's EP8 is claimed to have 85Nm of torque and provide up to 500w of peak power, and amplifies rider input by up to 400 per cent. So far so good. Shimano doesnt state what those design differences are, however. I have tested a few ones and to me best one is Specialized in terms of ridding feeling and refinement. That Shimano response was pure gold. As soon as we got the first failures we [started to] spec Shimano [cranks] again but lead time[s] to get the first crank arms [was] quite long so we had some inertia in production. Quote Start New Topic Post a reply to: SHIMANO EP8 - won't turn on (new bike) Not everyone has the time to grind for an hour up the climb. You dont necessarily go further, but you will be riding and climbing faster. I'm 56 with a long term knee injury. Subscribe from just 13.50 and get a Lezyne Pocket Drive Pump, worth 29! My first thoughts are that the disengagement part of the motor that allows it to pedal freely after 20 has already broken. You can improve efficiency by limiting the maximum torque, though it is still possible to get maximum power out of the motor by pedalling at a higher cadence, so you wont necessarily get more range by limiting torque. Weve ridden the latest Bosch Performance CX Gen 4 motor on a variety of e-MTBs, including the Cube Stereo Hybrid 160 and the Trek Rail. These findings are the result of an independently commissioned investigation by e*thirteen, after the brand became aware of reports that EP8 spindles were failing on bikes fitted with its ebike cranks. I rode the engine too, the thing is the engine is super quiet once you charge on the pedals, and you've got that annoying rattling noise as soon as you are on the freewheel and cruising down the trail Shim is working on it from what they said. While the motor is both more sensitive and more powerful though, Shimano has done brilliantly to offer usable control of that power. That would be awesome to do laps on. If a dynamo can be worked into the wheel hubs, you may even get near perpetual charging while the system is in use. You are not alone. Mine gets very hot. Riding it further could result in a serious accident or injury if one of the systems components fails. Bikes sent in for testing are usually carefully prepared by brands to pick up any assembly issues, and then are checked before testing by in-house mechanics or the testers themselves. The metallurgic analysis was conducted to discover root cause. IMO Shimano bikes are good,but they are 2 steps down compared to Specialized and Bosch. Another bike that features Shimano EP8 is the new Orbea Rise. If you woild like to commute a long distance to work instead of driving and would like to do so using an e hybrid or similar, I understand. Also a big improvement over the prior motor is that the EP8 freewheels easily, so on flats or downhill you can blast away without motor resistance. Reading between the lines, we suspect the misinterpretation e*thirteen is referring to is regarding the EP8 bottom bracket axle spindle failure noted in TSB 157. When they start looking (and weighing closer to regular trail bikes then I'll consider. It's kinda frustrating. Smaller:Compared to the previous model, the EP8's volume has been reduced. I have to admit some of the comments make me laugh out loud while others score some points for being helpful and based on fact, not hearsay fiction. I thought ebikes were supposed to enable us to do more fun stuff in less time. Along with the new EP8 motor, Shimano has also released a larger 630Wh battery, which seems to be the most popular option at the moment youll find it inside both the Canyon Spectral:ON and Merida eOne-Sixty. The lighter weight is a big plus as well. Others will tell us the EP8 is a weaker motor. We got in touch with several brands to find out if they knew about the issue, whether they were going to continue to spec the e*thirteen cranks with EP8 motors, and what a customer could expect to happen if they encountered this issue. What would happen if a consumer noticed their axle was cracked in the way described on e*thirteens TSB? I swapped wheels but didn't realize I had to swap the magnet from the rotor bolts that was connected to the speed sensor in the software. When youre at those 30-40km/h descending speeds, EP8 doesnt punish you for stamping on the pedals to build some extra speed in the lead-up to a jump or dropoff. Their heckler had complete battery failure, the ship date for a new one is close to the motor ship date. And more power requires more juice. I tried to find out the cause of this. How many instances of this problem has Shimano encountered? Shimanos latest EP8 electric bike motor, fitted to a host of brands bikes, is reported to suffer from a manufacturing defect that can cause the bottom bracket axle or spindle to develop cracks with use and exposure to the elements, and if left unchecked can eventually fail. Shimano has put its long-running Steps E8000 format to pastor and heralds in its EP8 motor unit for 2021. That's worse to, because 20kg dead weight doesn't contribute like 20kg of normal, muscle-laden body mass. While midly annoying, it only takes a couple button presses to get back to get an 800% stabbing strength increase! Commencal which has sold a number of its Meta Power electric bikeswith an EP8 motor and e*thirteen crank combination replied to our inquiries. Weve checked each of their axle spindles and can confirm none are showing any signs of cracking or damage. Alex then moved back to the UK and put his vast knowledge of mountain biking to good use by landing a job working for MBUK magazine as features editor. But on the premise of further, faster, more fun, that range at full noise is not gonna outdo the range & fun I get outta my bowl of cereal and some old fashion pedal power. That is not the case, but all cranks should be checked for proper tightness before riding, and initial installations procedures should be updated, reads TSB 156. We recommend only Shimano cranks for usage with our drive units. e*thirteens analysis suggests that some Shimano EP8 spindles may have manufacturing defects which, over time, can develop into cracks with use and exposure to the elements, reads TSB 157. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Any rider who owns an ebike with an EP8 motor fitted with e*thirteen cranks currently has two options. A bit like chain slap when you don't apply force on the pedals. Hitting those famous tracks day in, day out for eight years, he broke more bikes than he can remember. Power less, battery smaller, it lighter is.. Would "every time you push the on switch" have been more understandable? We haven't really got an opinion about durability. [The] topic has been closed from Shimano[s] side but e*thirteen is still investigating with independent labs.. It features the new Shimano EP8 motor and a 630wh battery. On my older gen Bosch motor with a 500wh battery I can get about 30 miles out of a battery charge if I only turbo up the steepest climbs and do the other bits in low/mid power settings (and I'm about 100kg's / 16 stone which sucks battery). Update. I was sure it was a motor issue till I realized I needed to put the speed sensor on the new wheel. Since working for MBUK, Alexs focus has moved to bike tech. Absolutely. One is a Haibike Fat-Tire with a Yamaha Drive, the second is an absolutely brilliant 40lb (including battery) DIODE from LaMere Cycles in the USA. - Numerous battery options, both from Shimano & 3rd parties What ever happened to grit?!?! This, of course, is good news for Commencal customers with EP8 drive units and e*thirteen cranks, and were hopeful other brands will follow suit. Funny that Shimano now budget e-bike motor builds? The noise is easily demonstrated if you pick the back wheel up a few inches off the ground and let it come back down. For riders scoping out bigger rides than that, youll want to consider dialling down the Assistance Character to improve efficiency. Bosch's Performance Line CX equals Shimano's torque,. They could have gone "yeah the rattling sucks but we hope you appreciate the motor nonetheless" but instead they composed this pure poetry. Probably more than some rattle. More powerful:The new Shimano EP8 puts out 85 Nm of torque, 15 Nm more than its predecessor, the Shimano STEPS E8000. If you don't like e-bikes for whatever reason, you really have no business even commenting on this review. This also allows brands to more neatly integrate the motor into their frame designs, Canyon having done a particularly swell job with the Spectral:ON. Hopefully we will have a system with little weight penalty in a few years. There are 10 levels of adjustment, from Eco to Powerful. 5Nm doesnt sound like much on paper, but on the trail the Levos 2.2 motor is noticeably musclier than Shimano EP8, particularly at the extreme ends of the cadence spectrum. If that fails check those thin cables have no freys and are all in tact, they are easily damaged. Would you like to receive offers, updates and events from BikeRadar and its publisher Our Media Ltd (an Immediate Group Company)? Assistance Character This adjusts the motors support level, which is how easily the motor delivers its power based on your input. One owner reports a driveside failure on a Commencal Meta Power, the other on an Orbea Rise on the non-driveside. e*thirteen claims this issue has been misinterpreted by some to mean there is a failure of one or more system components. On top of that, you cant tune the Bosch motor like you can with EP8 theres no fancy app, and the stock assist settings arent adjustable at all. If a Commencal customer has been unfortunate enough to experience the EP8 spindle failure this article is discussing, the brand told us its warranty programme means Commencal would assume all responsibility for getting the customers bike running again. The newly shaped buttons on the EM800-L switch unit provide a nice tactile perch for your thumb to quickly flick between those settings. Once paired, find the Customise menu and select Assist. The Brose Mag S motor has been used in the Specialized Levo and Kenevo since 2018, though it was recently updated for the release of the new Levo. So when the new version is so much better Refinement is all relative. The MasterMind TCU head unit on the top tube is also as good as it gets, with a sharp and clear, but unobtrusive display that reduces clutter on the handlebars. No, but the best on the market IMO. Now well point out here that the Bosch Gen 4 motor exhibits a similar metallic clacking noise, since its internal gear system also employs a clutch. I despise young people buying ebikeswhat a bunch of lazy. No, you're running the latest EP8. Still, given the lengths that bike and drivetrain manufacturers have gone to stealthify mountain bikes over the past few years, we found the noisy EP8 motor to be infuriating during the first few rides just as we did with the Bosch Gen 4. Didn't think I'd ever see that. Just imagine if i had bought a Shitmano Ebike. What settings you end up will depend on your personal riding style, and your expectations of range and power output. I can concur with the range, it's not as good as I expected. Indeed Shimano EP8 is starting to become available across quite a wide range of bikes at various price points. The charge bars are a major issues though on the 8000, after a bit of use the battery becomes extremely unpredictable. While some frames will resonate more than others, the noise is otherwise normal, and it doesnt take long before your brain subconsciously ignores it. I have not heard of a recall, so I did some digging. So that would include rocks, hops, trackstands but also sudden boosts from a standstill. However, where the Bosch Gen 4 feels like a diesel engine at low RPMs, the sporty EP8 drive unit still prefers spinning at a higher cadence. Its also a very quiet motor when pedalling. From what I get from the article, what would actually bother me more is how it kicks in from a standstill or trackstand. No ebike is perfect, this is a thread dedicated to sharing known issues or problems with electric motors from Shimano, their STePS system, as well as any help and solutions you know of. It isnt a huge difference, but sometimes its just enough for your rear wheel to make it up and over a stubborn tree root or rock ledge. What's your experience on this? The ability to customize the boost is very useful, with Shimano's app you can dial it in to your preferences. Total power isnt quite as brutish as Bosch and Brose, but the real beauty about EP8 is that it retains the smooth and intuitive performance that we loved about the old motor. That's it, no recall, but I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong. Wed much rather see battery life displayed as a percentage, and the option to customise the screen. The thing is though, you do actually get used to that noise. I feel like I've been missing out on so much! Wowzers! Same with brose 2.1 & their motor failures. One note on range Shimanos range estimation is not reliable. Don't worry: "Every time you start your pitchfork, it resets into 'no stab' mode. Climbs really well and descends like a beast. I think the only way it can get even close (And still doesn't) to that statement, is riding 25km on an analogue, or 50km on an ebike. However the motor operation itself is fabulous, smooth, powerful, feels natural when you ride, you can cover ground like crazy in this thing. Did some rides on a scott e-genius 920(2020) and my biggest one I did was a 115 km with 2000 meters of ascent ,19 km average speed,all in the eco mode and riding some rocky terrain with some tarmac ,fire roads ,very mixed terrain ,and I did got impressed with the power and the range ,didnt got me so tired on the legs its most a cardio ,but dont put more power on them and no more battery capacity,cause it wil make them almost a dirt bike :-((. In fact, we found ourselves tuning it out completely a couple of rides later. only one port which needs to be connected directly to the motor. But please don't anyone kid themselves that it's as much of a work out as an analogue bike, if there was no mechanical advantage over analogue what would be the benefit. I would have respected Shimano more if they owned it and were more forthright about working to resolve it. As they say, power is nothing without control. Der Shimano EP8 ist kleiner und leichter Nicht nur das Motorgehuse ist kleiner, auch das Innenleben des EP8 Motors. This BT-8036 battery only needs a 4mm hex key to be released from the frame for charging separately, which is unlike Bosch that requires a special key (potentially something else to lose/forget). However, when coasting on rough terrain the unloaded system can exhibit a normal clicking sound that may be detectable to the rider. While the EP8s performance on the climbs is generally excellent, we have occasionally wished for a little more overrun for clearing technical features. Shimanos overarching advice is for consumers to only use Shimano-approved pedal cranks on its EP8 motors. e*thirteen is one of the biggest OEM suppliers of cranks on electric mountain bikes. My take away besides the obviously pro/con talking points was the weight of the bike. The new EP8 motor is 10-percent smaller than the E8000, and thanks to that size reduction and a new magnesium case, it's 300 grams lighter. there are no additional ports on the SC-E5003 to connect the switch with. A kilometre later that estimation dropped to 14km, then not long after to 9km, then to 5km, before the motor automatically switched into emergency limp home mode. Both bikes were fitted with e*thirteen cranks. - Tuning options are simple and effective Both Shimano and e*thirteen recommend that you contact the place of purchase, which will be best-placed to investigate whether the failure is covered under either Shimanos or the bike manufacturers warranty. What is Shimanos take on e*thirteens metallurgic analysis findings? -- Wild Bill. Here youll find three sliding scales for each of the three assist modes (thats Eco, Trail and Boost). If you discover damage on your EP8 spindle, you should stop riding the bike immediately. Subscribe to Cycling Plus from just 13.50 and get a Lezyne Pocket Drive Pump, worth 29! Bunny hops were absolutely a blast on this bike. What Type of Mountain Bike Should You Buy in 2023? But overall EP8 offers more of a quieter and gentler hum than the whine of the E8000 motor, and its also quieter than the Bosch motor too. Otherwise I do not care. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. We hope Shimano will join us at that table soon.. This speed may be enough, but some people may find it very frustrating because from 25 km/h they have to make a gigantic effort to follow their teammates since the assistance is cut off or simply because they want to go faster. With the Spectral:ON for example, which has very short chainstays and a relatively slack seat tube angle that puts your weight further over the rear axle on steep climbs, it helped to dial down the Assistance Character (to 6/10), the Maximum Torque (to 78Nm) and the Assistance Start (to 4/5) to soften the bikes power and acceleration. The svelte motor casing provides more clearance for the rear wheel and suspension components, allowing brands to build their bikes with shorter chainstays. I have no personal experience riding with pedal assist but when I hear the high whiz from the motor I think that would drive me mad too. me-bikes: Ibis Exie, Ibis Ripley V4, Ibis Ripmo V2. The brand suggests EP8 owners should inspect their motors spindles for damage or cracks originating from the drilled hole used for the pedal crank retainer hook, located on the splined portion of the axle. (7000km ridden so far). Don't take things too seriously just get out there and enjoy whatever you own and have FUN! Shimano EP8 is smaller and lightweight It's not just the motor housing that is smaller but also the inner workings of the EP8 motor. When we make fun of others, its because we are not happy w ourselves. The belt-driven design is also a touch quieter when pedalling, and theres no clacking noise either. Unfortunately this clutch also produces a metallic clack whenever it rotates back and fourth. If I pull the E-trigger, it'll still be a Levo SL now that S has worked through the issues. After downloading the free E-Tube Project app, youll need to turn the bike on and pair it with your smartphone. The cause is due to the difference in design from Shimanos crank, which causes increased stress around the spindle hole.. Save 30% + G-Form Pro X3 Knee Pads when you subscribe to MBUK magazine. 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