I still suspect the money collected ( probably in actuality just chicken-feed ? ) Or a beer. As a first grade student at St.Aloysius in Wilkes-Barre, PA circa 1969, pagan babies were part of our extreme Catholic instruction. - Bob H. I went to Marymount Jr. School (on Sunset) and we were all sent home to canvas the neighborhood in Brentwood for heavens sake, to sell pagan babies! David. While the circumstances, the cost, and the rewards varied from parish to parish, most Catholic children of the 1960s saved at least one pagan baby. What exactly we learned from this could be disputed. The thing was a brown color . We wonder where those name choices really went . Maryknollers, Franciscans, or Missionaries of Charity, these men and women told riveting tales of adventure and hardship. She went to Catholic school too, and I dont know if they had pagan babies then, but I bet they did. Not many hands went up. The idea was to collect money from students , nickels and dimes , for charity . ( Sorry for the delay. One of my fellow employees is reading a book called Pagan Babies. I dont know what state you were in at the time, but I have lived in California for the last 60 years. We thought up the stupidest , weirdest names we could manage and , as I remember, the teacher wrote that name on the box with the five dollars and it went off to the pagans . 2000 Elmore Leonard, Inc. (P)2000 Recorded Books Inc. Unabridged Audiobook. All good saints names . A recent Pew Research Center study revealed that much of Christianity is significantly losing members. Catholic mom and grandparents here. Also , as you point out , the certificates ( I dont remember any certificates , though ) and the little cardboard box and all the hoop-la was good motivation and made the week more interesting for us kids . My mother was horrified. I guess our efforts got similarly fierce , but I never got sucked into that . by reneeqyancy | Feb 9, 2010 | Blog | 8 comments. Named mine Margaret Ann. I suspect nowhere . Shed be about 70 now! I served lunch to old people and I received so many compliments from the old people that I thought that I was a goner . Servant of God Mother Mary Lange and the Rich History of Black Catholic Religious Orders, Ukrainian Soldier Saved by Praying the Rosary, Priest Recounts, As We Forgive: Lenten Pastoral Note From Archbishop Samuel Aquila of Denver, A Lasting Trail of Light: The Witness of Pedro Ballester. It is so very true the whole Pagan baby scam my mom complained to the principal about how us kids were made to feel guilty for not coming up with the cash every day some of the richer kids would buy 10s of these Pagan babies I think we came close to sponsoring an entire small tribe in those days, Funny as hell reading this story great memories! Catholic Register, more than one-third of millennials now say they are unaffiliated Pagan baby naming makes good memories but was , I guess , conditioning in deception . Charlie had a question for the missionary nuns , too . I dont remember what exactly the certificates were certifying Im assuming that little Christine Marie had been duly baptized but I know when we were younger we were told that we were buying the pagan babies. Someone must have decided it was no longer a good way to raise money for Catholic missions. is the gateway to life in the Spirit, and the door which gives access to the other - Ann C. I think you had to be in Catholic school around 1960 or earlier to have been exposed to the term pagan babies. Id forgotten that the rest of it was to ransom them. I am a recovering catholic now but am thrilled with the new Pope (too bad the old one is living in the apartment w/ is BF) he is a nasty old creep and was (or is) the sole channel for abuse victims. Went to Holy Name Grade School and when my friend was writing a book including some Catholic characters ( she is not Catholic), my fellow Holy Name and I gave her the pagan baby story to include, complete with only the rich kids got to name the baby since the rest of us did not have the means to save $5. What readers of her book talked about the most was either Is there really such a thing a pagan babies thats hilarious or Oh yes, I remember saving up during Lent to get to name a pagan baby. Thanks for the memories. We'd all suggest names, and then vote for the one we liked best. No pagan babies, just for the hungry, I think. When I was in grade school prior to ~1961 in Catholic school, we collected money (our little pittances of coins) for some vague, needy group covered by the catch-all term pagan babies.* Were collecting money for the pagan babies?* As I recall, there were little paper boxes that we saved our coins in and then turned them in to someone periodically. Hilarious ! Fierce competition existed between some of the nuns as to whose class had the most pagan babies. Well , I havent met any pagan (baby) Davids running around , but no pagan (baby) Patricias , either . She was managing editor and co-author of Ascension Press bestselling Amazing Grace series. "Pagan Babies": Orphan Imagery in the Passionist China Collection and the Emergence of American Sympathy for the Chinese in the Early Twentieth Century Margaret Kuo Published 3 July 2019 History The Chinese Historical Review The rice they used was really good which I think defeated the purpose since a lot of kids looked forward to it, myself included. Diane, In accepting his medallion, Cardinal McCarrick summed up the missionary spirit. I went to Christ the King in Pleasant Hill, CA. Enjoyed reading all of your comments about Pagan Babies. I think it has something to do with the "Poor starving babies overseas" that people send money to when they donate at Church, but I'm not sure. Really thought I was saving a baby!" Should they be angry or should they just feel anguish for the sorry state of the religion these days ? A Timeline. Christianity is significantly losing members. Many of those kids still have their adoption certificate, like Bob Starving kids in Africa or something. Sometimes, I was that girl. I dont believe that UNICEF worries about saving souls. Youre stirring up memories . When we got five dollars the children would pick a name for the pagan baby, send the five dollars to the priest at the mission who would snatch the baby from an eternity of suffering and baptize it with the name we sent along. Plot summary. James Dingwall picked that name and the girls immediately protested! He said the priest paused and said, Uh, son, you need to talk to your nun about that in catechism class. My vocation has been in education, and in the thirty-plus years since my summer in Mexico I have accompanied students on many short sojourns to the front lines in Tijuana, Nicaragua, El Salvador, East Los Angeles, New Orleans. Christians have always believed that baptism Ask for their blessings so that your home will remain safe and happy, or if you do not follow a particular deity, you can alternately ask the . Every month after the money was collected, a students name was "randomly"picked out of a bag with the chosen name becoming the "Pagan Baby of the Month.". We were never quite sure what a pagan was . Im still not so sure . for missions in foreign lands. I did the saving bond thing , too . Some had a lot more than others. The Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii) Jason Woycke 9 subscribers Subscribe 62 Share 2.2K views 5 years ago A compilation of live footage of the Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii). Even though I later went on to become a Catholic priest (and later resigned and married), my robust suspicion that Catholicism did not have all the answers began to take root way back in my young Catholic boyhood. Boy , does all of that ring true to me ! I think most of them were in Africa and India. Campbell, now retired from the film industry where he worked as a technician, told CNY that hed been enrolled in the Holy Childhood Association since seventh grade and that he remembered adopting babies to get them baptized into the faith. In our class it was the boys vs the girls. But the "pagan babies" were actual children being looked after by missionary sisters, brothers and priests in their countries. Required fields are marked *. Simone Weil went into the factory to find out more about the social conditions of the modern worker in capitalism. - Ann C. Now I am teaching fourth grade in a little Catholic school in Venice . Thank God someone sent this information to me and redeemed my sanity. You never know what I might post about next! J. OBrien. My first lessons in social justice came through saving pagan babies. It seemed like an honorable thing, he explained. If you want, you can contact the director of music programming at Hawaiian Public Radio, and ask him if hes still using it, though. Im a veteran of catholic school and I remember so well about the pagan stories and purgatory, limbo and so on. I ALSOvividly remember, that the certficates were five dollars each (pretty steep for thr 60s! Each pagan baby cost five dollars. Oh those Catholics had some great fund raising ideas. None of my non-Catholic friends ever believed my pagan baby stories, either. If memory serves, it shows a black child being led by a (white) boy and girl towards a (white) Jesus, while two (white*) nuns look on approvingly. I should have asked them if they had ever run into any pagan named Herman . 4. muddymoose 4 mo. Here a pagan ; there a pagan . A different time ; a different place . Fogogo to mention JUG for bad behavior- Justice Under God, also at St. Ignatius College Prep JMJ was replaced with AMGD all for the glory of God. Hello Mike. They spoke for an hour and I think that every sentence they uttered had the word pagan in it . They folded out . I remember Green Stamps . But they do a lot of things for children like provide food and clean water and mosquito nets. There were competitions between classes . 1969 From Pioneer to Poet by Isabelle Pagan, vintage Astrology book zodiac I went to Catholic grade school at St. Amelias for 8 years. Marianne Bruce is organizing this fundraiser on behalf of Edgardo Gonzalez Pagan. Hey! I remember the rice bowls but no actual rice. Thanks for your thoughtful comment . His name is Seth (pretty sure he still has that job, but it cant hurt to check). Charlie stood up to his full height of about four foot three , his head held high , a serious look on his face . Pagan Babies: and Other Catholic Memories. We'd all suggest names, and then vote for the one we liked best. Elementary I spent all my paper boy money." I have often wondered whatever happened to my pagan baby Beverly Anne. I always thought it was amazing that I could have this baby and name her and feed her forever! Pingback: A Poor Church For the Poor | Vox Nova, Pingback: Remembering a Different A-to-Z Challenge | No Facilities, This was too much fun. Here is sister Mary So-and-So in the plane about to fly off to baptize the pagans . It really didnt have anything to do with Jesus, per se. 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