I tried a few things and finally did a pilot light start up with everything attached, took the front cover of the module off with the lights blinking X4, the pilot went out and the blinking stopped. Thanks alot guys got mine up and running as well after taking the electronic crap out. Because, when they shop at Lowes (and other DIY stores), people dont always, every time, ask them, You carry repair parts for this, right? okay at this point with circuit boardhave no clue..please step by step for dummies pleasecannot remove it from whitish housing.appears a screw of some sort and also something that looks like glass attaching to it? Be sure you first fix the problem that caused the overheating usually you need to drain the tank (which is recommended as periodic maintenance anyway). I had to do it again so Ill detail what seems to have worked form me. Does anybody know of an other brand that could replace this crap of a unit? Not sure if these links will come thru, however I took a few pictures of my replacement. After spending 51 minutes with Sears customer non-service the problem was resolved within 20 minutes following Davids instructions. Rheem, to their credit, is overnight shipping a new sensor to replace the bad one in the new Home Depot Rheem that I installed yesterday. thanks for all the details you put in it. ( P.S. ENJOY, BIG BIG thanks to you, it worked i fixed it. So are you saying that you got yours from the MFR? When the pilot wont light and there are no flashes, the problem is generally that the heating chamber got too hot and tripped the safety interlock. Cal. I have dealt with the dreaded 4 blinks three times. Light the pilot light as normal. Tried disconnecting the old board for an hour. The later version has a board-edge trace for accepting another type of slip-on connector. Function: The gas valve is a low voltage control (usually 24 VAC) that allow gas into the combustion chamber. Yes my 20 month old envirotemp gas water (purchased from lowes) heater quit and is displaying 4 flashes of death . But- I havent tried it so go with this method. She then told me that she would have to transfer me to someone else to finish up because my unit has the power exhaust flap and that was a different group. Can a control valve partially fail like this? Replaces Old . First, the Pilot has to be able to stay lit on its own and a fault blinks on the controller to continue. Also turn the black dial to Off. To begin, address the old gas valve. It took a while but I hope it is sufficient to extend the life of the valve. I had worked on a water heater that was in a flooded basement and had to open up the sealed combustion chamber, remove the burner/pilot/ignitor/thermopile assembly and dry out the ignitor with a hair dryer for about 15 minutes before it was capable of showing a spark again. inlet and. It does have all of the same issues and the dreaded 4 flashes of death. Tankless sounds good to me, but Im not an expert just another hapless victim who has learned from experience one more thing not to do. I hear a click when the pilot tube opens but no 2nd click for the main tube. The single wire to the rectangular connector just on the left bottom side is the lead to the pilot ignitor so if thats taken off, please remember to re-attach it. Cant see internally if it is different. We had a power outage and the codes are switching from the 4 beat to the 7 beat to the heartbeat . Be sure the tank is flushed as much as possible. * Honeywell Gas Valve on a Water 2000 coachman catalina water heater rv forum, The lp switch water heater 2000 coachmen [], [] Th106 honeywell aube th106 7 day programmable line, Comments 7 day programmable line volt thermostat electric heating: bought level house. Was sent a new one with a bad (stuck) push button sparker. Any way, the pilot fired up rather quickly and flashed one time every three seconds! Regarding 7 flashes means Gas Control electronic fault Still no flashes. Any ideas? We are dealing with possible gas leak & explosion here guys! This will insure that the board will not be getting any electrostatic signals from the water heater. My wife thinks Im brilliant. Asked the associate, he said they are all interchangeable. My installation uses a tempering valve to keep water to the home closer to 110F no matter what the solar temperature is (which can be up to ~140F in summers). Worked for me waiting to see if burner shuts off I did call Whirlpool and told them that the new valve they sent was broken and they did send another replacement free overnight. After a lot of back and forth they sent me the module which was a breeze to install. I used sealant on all the piping going into the valve assembly however I used teflon tape for the screwing portion of the assembly that goes into the tank and touches water. They do have technical PDFs for the revision A and B valves thought those sheets do not have Un-fubar information listed. There is a thermo-breaker in series with the thermopile attached to the plate opposite the sight window that may need to be reset or could be bad just another thought. About this product. Unscrew one screw at the bottom of the gas valve. I was told that you can use the yellow teflon and sealant for gas and water, but the water products do not work on gas. Is it flashing at you? Probably not, but it was worth a try. OMG!! I have to buy parts, shipping and all. My contacts with them left me in complete distrust, with the feeling that their solution failed to provide any real value, and my belief that while they may get my water heater working again, Id be left lighter in the wallet after being taken for an unpleasant ride that I could have (and did!) i followed your instructions and bingo! As a side note, the light on the new valve is white. Last year I had the blinks. The valve is known to be defective and maybe they will help ? Maybe a result of their desire to protect themselves against scald claims and the programmers misunderstanding of high hot might have to be to deliver hot at a faucet that is 75 feet from the tank and serviced by uninsulated lines? thank you so much. Thanks so much. Nope! Tonight I came home to the 4 blink code again No problem Ill just reset it one more time to get us through showers tonight and replace it tomorrow. I cant think of how many brands of water heaters use the same honeywell gas valve. It has a stainless steel protective cover. I just duplicated the steps that Charles on 29 July, 2014 took. That sounds reasonable. I just found this article. The gas valve is a Honeywell WV8840C1406, red led which changes to blue, 1 flash, when everything is working right. Thanks E. Update : Tried all the reset methods and none worked for me for the white light control valve. Although, it wouldnt hurt to turn the gas off at the water heater line by twisting the valve into the horizontal position. Loreleafs procedure (5 January 2016) worked for me remove cover and short 2 pins with a screwdriver. Abner, I will handle your questions in my own order. The next two times we dealt with it in in a very non-technical way. Another comment when I finally got a replacement from Amazon, the LED light was White in color, not RED as my last two. Reviews are especially welcome. I first noticed it a few days after install and immediately freaked and went to get the manual. Is there a replacement gas valve that people have had success with? The sediment can build up and surround the stock probe and retains heat insulating the probe and causing the 4 flash situation. Cheers. Regarding these Honeywell 9007884 Reliance 300 Series gas valves, the manual states that the HOT setting is 120F and the VAC (vacation) setting is 55F, but what temperature setpoint is the LOW setting? He gave me the $30 overnight speech but I opted for the $10 and some change shippingGot it 2 days later! No luck. This time I left the knob in the pilot position for 10 minutes. When I contacted Rheem again, without hesitation they said they were Fed-Exing me a new valve. If you need to, stick the screwdriver in from below to lever them loose. And so the very thin wires (at point where wire became tinned or soldered) became brittle and had broken. Look at where the Valve body pins connect to the circuit board. One has a red mode indicator (the older one) and a white one. Too good buddy, the solution you proposed works like charm, all working now ! That said, I decided to tackle this replacement as I wasnt going to shell out a couple hundred for someone to come in and do it. I know I did this while trying to figure out why no hot water. After reading many of the comments rather than short anything on the circuit board I just unplugged the red and white input power and waited about 1 hour. correction on part where my friend bets me $100 its the thermo pile should have read Valve. The wires for the main burner valve solenoid had not broken. I was ready to take the circuit board into work and try to reprogram it through what appears to be a serial port (TX RX pins). US Government safety features. Again, not a water heater expert, just saying based on my own experiences with the ones in my home. I used the short across the top left and right connectors while everything was still connected method as my problem was a straight 7 flash error. Ernie. 5. Good luck, and be sure to write Whirlpool and tell them their tank design valve is a piece of crap. I dont have faith in this product and may need your instructions at a later date. Four flashes only happens if the water overheated different problem. For anyone who encounters valve control failure, as long as the problem relates to this particular Honeywell valve controller model (mine was model NU50T61-403), I suggest to go straight to David Boones instruction in this thread for resetting the fault. My install is brand new, so there is no connection to any sediment buildup causing any malfunction state. Twist the phone wires together, the burner lit for about 20 seconds then shut off. I have drained the tank twice and in both cases I got virtually NO SEDIMENT out of my water heater. What is top left pin and the top right pin you arereferring to, while holdingcircuit board still inside the controllerassembly and facing towards me which corner are youreferring to, can you please give me some details or a picture thatwould be great. But, dont buy a water heater from the DIY in any case. So far, so good but was looking up things that could go wrong and found this page. I pulled the cover yesterday , left every thing hooked up. All models of WT8840 include an integrated NTC temperature sensor. 1. I called my father-in-law and told him about it, he is a plumber and replaces this kind of valves all the time but he said he has never seen one that flashes any codes other than normal right out of the box Go figure!!! Working fine. WT8840 TRADE WATER HEATER CONTROLS 34-00013EF01 2 PLANNING THE INSTALLATION WARNING Fire or Explosion Hazard. My 83 year old dads water heater went out. Two days ago, the replacement unit also died. SUPER FIX< SUPER POST. Taking your screwdriver and hold it against the upper right pin and the lower pin for about 3 seconds. After removing the controller board and the wires, I had to reattach it to light the pilot light. https://www.flickr.com/photos/7428166@N07/13946540277/. It will die eventually and it would be nice to have the gas valve ready to go. This item: WV8840B1109 Gas Valve for Honeywell Whirlpool Water Heaters - WV8840B1109 WV8840B1042 $429.99 Fixitshop Water Heater Pilot Assembely Includes Pilot Thermocouple and Tubing Natural 24" $14.99 Water Heater Pilot Assembely Includes Pilot Thermocouple and Tubing LP Propane $14.99 Product information Technical Details Additional Information Even though it did not appear excessively dirty or clogged there was some soot present on top of the screen and a small amount of dust under the burner (& one dead ladybug). Lastly, be VERY careful when ordering your replacement unit, in that one has a square COM plug with four pin slots. Ive also decided that, every year, Im going to file a warranty claim on this piece of crap valve/circuit board setup. Maybe I can avoid the $120 labor charge the next time it breaks. Its definitely a hassle rigging up the battery setup, but I cannot complain with the results. THIS METHOD WORKS!!! I turned the knob to just the Hot setting and it fired up ! The manual, and Sears parts deptartment, told me I needed a new control valve at $150. Jolie, even you can do this. taken care of on my own. light the pilot and you still get the 7 flashes; however the water heater kicks back on and gets back up to temperature and shuts off as normal and you will see that your light now only flashes 1 time every 3 or 4 seconds. controller). I, too, experienced the dreaded 4-flash-of-death failure after about 8 months of use, was given the replacement valve, did the complete flush of the tank only to discover no sediment issues and, as with most of the rest of you, received a valve with a different color indicator light. Gas and Flame Detection. I want to send you a gift..paypal?? After refitting the cover and lighting the pilot again, this resulted in the 7 flashes as mentioned in another post. The 5 inlet pipe would NOT separate from the Gas Valve assembly, so I had to run up to Lowes and get a new inlet pipe (5 1/2) to connect to the new assembly. It arrived today within 24 hours. 2. Rheem next day shipped me a new Honeywell control valve. Its a Reliant water heater, but at Menards. Untwist wires and relight pilot. Some designers use whats called a super cap instead of a battery to preserve data for short periods of time. Direct Replacement: Gas Control Valve Kit (Natural Gas) Brand: AO Smith SKU: 100112336 ( 70) In Stock Get 297 Fri, Mar 3 Order by today, receive 297 by Friday VIEW REPLACEMENT Product Highlights - Natural Gas Description - 8: Once the status is blinking, set the temperature to desired level. Water Heater Gas Valve Replaces Honeywell Resideo WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 WV8840B1109 WV8840B1110 Furnace Heater Gas Valve Shut-off Slow Fast Opening Pilot Spark Hot Surface Ignition Repair Part . Unfortunately, Charles, your fix did not work for me. After re-installing the burner and reattaching all the wires, it started up with the 7 blinks & eventually went to normal 1 blink. Water heater runs both water AND heating in the home 0 degrees in Denver right now! So while they said just use the sealant through out, I actually used a combination of both. I have always had it at one above on A. And two finger-pressable connectors at the top. Big thanks from MN! Heater is only 7 months old. It installed easily. Id rather spend money at some local cage, or boxing matches here in So. I really did not want to mess with wires inside so extremely glad this works for this controller. Fixed? The water heater is a Kenmore and I called Sears but they only wanted to send out a service worker for $79 to diagnosis the water heater although I explained numberous times that the water heater is OK It is the controller that failed. I my case, I need to deliver about 130 degrees to get a high enough temp at my faucets. Thank you sooomuch and my daughter thanks you, hot water is a must for her. You can save delay and $hundreds in plumber fees by fixing the part that's gone on strike. I followed the last paragraph instructions (what i did take off the cover.) and everything seems to be in working order again with one caveat: when I reattached the front cover with the 3-wire connector unplugged and lit the pilot, I got a 5-flash error (indicating that there was a sensor failure) rather than the 7-flash error. any help???? On my particular Honeywell gas valve, model WV8840B1109, the error codes indicate the following: FLASHES STATUS 0 Control Off/Pilot Out 1 Normal Operation 2 Thermopile Voltage Low 4 High Temperature Shutdown 5 Temperature Sensor Failure 7 Gas Control or Valve Failure 8 Flame Sensor Error Much obliged. Thanks for the above suggestions. I hope this helps others! NOTE: Only do this if youre sure that the problem that caused the overheating has been corrected. In my own order voltage control ( usually 24 VAC ) that allow gas into the horizontal position the... 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