Rachel Fradette is a general assignment reporter at IndyStar. You would think that a bunch of dolls hanging from the trees and stuffed animals would draw a lot of attention to the killzone if not at night then at least when the lights came back on. " (T)he media accounts concerning this cause have contained an undue number of statements relating no only to the progress of the investigation, but conclusions of the investigation, some of which have been untrue.". The tip line number is 1-844-459-5786. I dont know about the rest of you, but I am looking at that damned bear or dog or whatever it is and I am thinking, Thats a stuffed animal. If any of you all think thats not a stuffed animal and its really something else, speak up now or forever hold your tongue. "For now, to me, it's about protecting the integrity of this case.". "Its somewhat bittersweet," Mike Patty, grandfather of Libby, told reporters Monday gathered at the DelphiUnited Methodist Church, "knowing it allows us to move to the next turn, the next chapter. On Feb. 25, 2017, officers with Indiana State Police, the Peru Police Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation executed a search warrant on Kline's home as part of that investigation,. He tells off women in passive-aggressive hostile posts. It seems odd. Because probably because they DNA tested me they obviously have DNA on that body, 'cause why else would they DNA test me. DELPHI, Ind. Hi Robert. A search party found Libby and Abby's bodies along the Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east of the Monon High Bridge. I appreciate your work. But does that mean that they are kosher slaughterhouses? DELPHI, Ind. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. How many more than one? We would love to hear your thoughts on him and why or why not he might be a suspect in the Delphi murders. What does he mean that they think they have Game but they dont. Who said there were stuffed animals at the crime scene? Or a twisted kind of guilt or compassion for the girls? From the very beginning, I felt that the perp(s) is/are local, and that they knew the girls through the friends and family circles. Nice guy! Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland give update on the Delphi murders. Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. DELPHI, Ind. Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. I am so suspicious of Mr. Xs cemetery hangout and if the rumor about the keys being at the site is true. Diamond Bynum and King Walker, look that up one day. Its holding something in its hand. According to prosecutors, Kline used a bogus social media profile with the username "anthony_shots" to contact and illicit nude photographs from numerous underage girls. I read that they had teams searching on the second day. The agent also references the video on Libbys phone where the suspect says guys, down the hill. She confirms the full video is 43 seconds long. By mid-morning, the downtown Delphi Fire Department became a makeshift command center for volunteers assisting in the search. Who were they? Compared to most single men his age, I dont think he has much animus towards young women at all. 1:08. If not and it is him, did he know who THEY were? News outlets throughout the state, including Gannett, the Hoosier State Press Association and the Indiana Broadcasters Association, filed a brief Monday in favor of the documents' release. Ok, thats so crazy that its almost impossible to believe its true. Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said the probable cause affidavit and charging information are sealed by the court. The probable cause affidavit and charging information were sealed by court order, McLeland said, to protect the ongoing investigation. I read somewhere an account by a search party member from the night before, that one of the search party organizers prevented his group from searching the actual crime scene by saying you all cant go here, its been searched already. Sarah Larimer contributed to this report. Not unless they were in a relationship for 2+ years and he got a tattoo of her, which I find unlikely, as Libby would only have been about 13/14 back in 2015/2016. DELPHI, Ind. Thanks for your work and your blog. Every time one comes up, everybody flips and says this is the guy!! Kline is facing 30 child porn-related charges stemming from his alleged use of thefake social media account. The only exceptions are murder and treason. I mean, surely folks would know if a well-known, local who became a POI was in on the search? True crime podcasters investigating the brutal 2017 murders of two young girls in Delphi, Indiana, say they spotted law enforcement conducting a search of waters close to where their bodies were . Ive probably seen him. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Also Thursday, the Indiana Department of Correction said Richard Allen, who has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abby Williams and Libby German, has been moved to one of their facilities. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Just a guess. Which I'm sure made finding the girls all that worse. My thoughts as well. So why waste your money on Hughes and Greeno? Almost yours: 2 weeks, on us 100+ live channels are waiting. When the the girls did not show up for their ride home, Libby's family became concerned and family members started a search that was joined by many in the Delphi community. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. However, realize firstly as vast as that wooded area was, RLs property when you zoom out isnt the most ideal place to hide a body, being so close to the cemetery. Its about Abby and Libby, their families and this community.. Delphi was revenge for Flora. State police have refused to disclose what they were searching for or may have found; however, it's believed the extensive operation is connected to Trexler's cousin, Kegan Kline. And were going to stay after it. I dont know why more people arent talking about this connection. Doug Carter of the Indiana State Police provides an update on the Delphi murders investigation on April 22, 2019, in Delphi, Ind. Previously:'Today is the day': Update to Delphi murders of Libby and Abby announced by ISP. Trexler was held in custody for a week in place of a $1,200 bond. I think they were lured or catfished at some point. In a town like Delphi, no one is innocent. What strikes me about this rumor regarding the dolls at the crime scene is that it was mentioned in the leaked Erskine texts that Abby was found placed on the ground like a doll I always wondered why Erskine would describe it like that. He was in the area because he liked rail bridges, had endless hours to wander, and perhaps was hoping for an opportunity to grab a young girl. We also believe that he never lost them in the first place, and they were probably in his pocket the whole time. Maybe because he witnessed real dolls where the girls were found? Id assume the kind that is foggy? Yet somehow they didnt come across the bodies until over half a day after the search party started. Allen's defense has not yet filed a rebuttal argument to the motion for a gag order, and Gull has not yet published an order on the motion. Our profession will not allow us to speak on what we think, but to always speak about what we know. Allen pleaded not guilty in a preliminary hearing, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said in a news conference Monday. There were no stuffed animals in trees. 4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams, What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Were not doing that anymore. On the Evansdale, Delphi case, who is the suspect? The investigation is ongoing and open, various authorities reiterated during the news conference. Support the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! Down The Hill: The Delphi Murders HLN True Crime 3.7 10.4K Ratings; Abby and Libby - 2 young girls murdered. But what shocks me is how little these men give their audiences in return for their purchases. And you wont by enriching someone who is already wealthy like Hughes. What if he's full of s**t? ", Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. So they were alone with each other, supposedly, from ~2 pm to 3.30-4 pm on a Monday afternoon. Days after the bodies were found, Indiana State Police released a photo of a man they suspected was involved in the killings. You have a million people who come out and say OMG THERES JUST NO WAY A BIG STUFFED BEAR WAS LEFT AT THE CRIME SCENE ABSOLUTELY NOT. But even if LE told the searchers not to tell people what they saw that day, Im sure they can at least say whether or not something for sure wasnt there. A number of those slaughterhouses around there are indeed operated by Orthodox Jews. Or by their accounts, what were they doing? The agent goes on to say I believe there is probable cause to believe that RONALD LOGAN has committed the crime of murder and evidence of that can be found on RONALD LOGANS property.. How about getting your moneys worth? Investigators were seeking a judges permission to search the propertyof Ronald Logan, who owned the land where the two girls were found dead. February 24, 2017 Instead he was with the team that found the bodies. I havent seen this stuff. 'Today is the day': Update to Delphi murders of Libby and Abby announced by ISP, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. I sure would like to know more about this. "But the arrest on two counts of murder is sure a major step in leading to a conclusion in the long-term and complex investigation.". The next day, volunteers from the community formed a search party, and found the girls bodies in a wooded area near the trail. ", The detective then asked: "So why would you worry about your DNA being on that body? RE Mr X and keys On the police radio a male is mentioned returning to the cemetery with his wife to collect his vehicle. If thats the case, wouldnt you think they would have been noticed the first day during the search? On February 13, 2017, Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Ab Then they say they had planned to reopen it much earlier in the AM but that the fog on the 14th made it very difficult to see so they didnt restart the search party until 9 AM. I doubt hes seen that classic film, but girls as flowers is common imagery. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. "That is correct.". The public can see the truth of the facts to support this case," he argued, adding that the public also can assess through the documents how their tax dollars were spent in the nearly six-year investigation. Its just conjecture," he said in rebuttal to McLeland's argument. Alt Left: Trotsky on Fascism: One of the Best Analyses of Fascism Ever Written, VIDEO: Danse Macabre! Not much of Allen and his arrest is known as most of the case-related documents are under seal. They are both saying the same thing independently, too, and we have no evidence that they talked to each other. Thats how he knew they were going to be there at that date and time. His name only got out recently with the Leaker leak. Was just thinking this!! Because sometimes searchers get lost too. allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams, Review the case through 5 years of reporting, Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in', Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Carter, during Monday's news conference, noted the suspect had been living in Delphi all this time, the nearly six years since the teens were found killed Feb. 14, 2017, on a trail east of Delphi. "We now move forward through the Indiana criminal justice system allowing the system to provide its due diligence and process," Carroll County SheriffTobe Leazenbysaid at a press conference inside Delphi United Methodist Church. They force his wife to abandon their house.. Your email address will not be published. He seemed quite toned down and purposely mellow in his critique of single women. See how people are reading too much into this guy? Also the original SPM1 clarified via my friend that there was not just one stuffed animal but also that there were stuffed animals plural at the scene. Keeping the documents secret only heightens the public's curiosity about the case, Rozzi said. The Peru home he shared with his father, Tony Kline, was raided 12 days after Libby and Abby were found dead. One of those suspects was John Miller, convicted in 2018 for a 1988 murder of an 8-year-old girl. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. Also who said this crime was over quickly? DELPHI, Ind. Contact her at rfradette@indystar.com or follow her on Twitter at @Rachel_Fradette. They supplied each others alibi, technically, without saying CSI guy is a suspect. Also a lot of what is being sad about this guy are just flat out straight up lies. Citizens? Indiana State Police made headway on Friday in the 2017 cold case commonly referred to as the Delphi Murders. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. He was seated right smack in the middle of the room. He catfished them by pretending to be a cute 19 year old boy. However, they only cut pigs throats that way in kosher slaughterhouses. As you can see in the subhead of my title, I am challenging my critics about their certainty that there was no stuffed animal left at the crime scene. The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. Why would they do that? A large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene, the agent writes. We have never given up. "Let me ask you - why would you, after you failed the polygraph about knowing about the Delphi investigation, come home, delete your Snapchat and your Instagram, which you used to communicate with Libby, and then you searched, how long does DNA last?" "Secrecy of judicial action can only breed ignorance and distrust of courts and suspicion concerning the competence and impartiality of judges, attorneys for the media wrote, citing a Nebraska case. Mr. X? "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. I just cant imagine my peers posting things like that. That Monday afternoon, the two ventured onto the trail around the Monon High Bridge. - Stunning new documents describe the scene where two young girls were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, five years ago. On a day off from school Monday, Feb. 13, 2017, the teens Liberty, 14, and Abigail, 13 embarked on a hike after a sleepover the night before at Libby's house. When the girls did not return to their rendezvous point, family called authorities and a search began. Follow on Twitter: @RonWilkins2. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have, and almost the entire community rejects our findings even though they are correct. I generally accept it however because to assume otherwise would be to assume that the entire police force and townsfolk who were in the search party waited longer than what made sense. Who would be familiar with a hunting ground but a hunter? No, but no way is this guy involved. I will agree with SPM1 who seemed to say that there was a stuffed animal toy at the scene that was so large that BG could not have been carrying it with him on the bridge. Any mention from your sources on this Chadwell guy everyone on Reddit is losing their minds over being a suspect? Hi Robert. Any theories? Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. 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