KL, Funny thing is the murmur is gone but Ill never have my life back If you lie on your medical form Best of luck. Id probably be in better shape if I *wasnt* a pilot since Id feel free to take advantage of those things, whereas now theyre just traps, ways to lose the ability to fly. Its mode of travel, the air, makes it a lot more divertable than stuck to a road, and should make it safer, Especially as opposed to the majority of motor home drivers, that are in their later stages of life, howling down the freeway at 70 miles per hour in bumper to bumper traffic. Has anyone seen that data? Again, take a look at the AME Guide on the FAA website. No. Needless to say, I dont have my class 3 medical now. Im depressed, so their answer is to tell me I cant do anything to fix my problem whilst simultaneously denying me something that significantly helps with my depression: Flying? Usually, that period of time is 60 days. Federal Aviation Regulations require that a pilots distant vision be 20 /20 or better, with or without correction, in EACH eye separately to hold a first or second class medical certificate. And, apparently, if and applicant for a first medical certificate with student certificate has had epilepsy, he/she can be deferred even if seizure-free for more than 10 years. The information provided on this website is not intended to be a replacement or substitute for professional medical advice. Pilots lying on the there 1st 2nd and 3rd class medicals happens all the time, and it happens just as much as people going to MEPS for the Military. According to Pilot Self-Grounding Requirements (CFR 61.53), pilots have the duty to ground themselves and report to the FAA any changes in their medical condition before they are able to fly again. Certification of employees to preform tasks, medical and eye examinations are normal in the Aerospace industry. MEDICAL CATEGORY 3: This category applies to the issue or revalidation of Student Pilot Permit, Helicopters, Gyroplane, Balloon, Pilot Permit, Gyroplane, Private Pilot Licence Aeroplane, Helicopter Pilot Licence, Flight Instructor Rating, Glider, Ultra-light Aeroplanes. the third class should go away. The odds of a passenger catching Covid-19 on a flight and dying from the virus are less than one in half a million. Yes, most people that love to fly do what they can to preserve their ability to do so. Ask your AME to call Oklahoma City and ask to speak with a physician about your case. They may only get 3rd class, but they are flying with strict guidelines on preflight accu check, inflight accu check, etc. I guess it was a bit negligent on my part to get so far into before getting the medical. Hey Guys as you know there is nothing private on the internet. After numerous attempts I decided to contact the FAA of the situation so he would not get away with deceiving the AME again. Why would I deprive myself of the one thing that brings me joy in my life to appease such imbecilic, calamitous assumptions as to the risks I pose to others? He proceeded to read off the list and after a half dozen items to which I responded No, he said You wouldnt tell me if you had any of these, would you? I am hoping that they do the right thing when it comes to my health assessment. At worse, you may face a hefty fine or even criminal prosecution. Have you asked AOPA to assist you with getting your medical back? What next, psych eval, cholesterol screen for atherosclerosis, denying smokers because risk of copd exacerbation in unexpected decompression, genetic screening to predict addictive personality or anger tendency? We only use the Most those fellas at the FAA seem pretty smart, but they must be pretty spineless too. Bicycle accident deaths 700 Of course people lie on the application, they want the medical so they can keep flying. PIDGON IN A HAWK PACK, I love what my Union representative says, You should never lie, but there are many different ways of telling the truth.. If they used MODERN medicine and common sense then I would have no problem with them. Military veterans should also be aware that the FAA now routinely cross-references your VA disability rating when determining your eligibility for a medical certificate. Its funny that this question even comes up. 6 months and 2 weeks earlier I had one done for a Peace Corps application and sent that in, which would have been good for 2 years. If I dont tell him would the FAA find out if I never had another attack? An attorney that focuses on FAA medical denials may be able to guide you through the process and work with the FAA to achieve certification. If Im not successful, well, I will probably just put the dream to bed again. Others have their dreams dashed who lived years longer flying ultralights. Do you need a medical to operate a large motor home, car, boat, sand dune buggy, tractor, motorcycle, etc, etc. According to Dr. Guillermo J. Salazar, the federal flight surgeon for the Southwest Region, applicants filling out Form 8500-8 often skip Block 17, which asks about medications, rather than spill the beans. We have a very good AME in our area. The FAA requires applicants with a diagnosis of epilepsy to be seizure-free for 10 years without medication before being considered for a medical certificate. You can be fined up to $250,000 and jailed for five years for lying to the federal government. Find another AME. As statistics show flying is considerably safer than any land based carrier. He was convinced if he had the physical and they discovered something bad, hed have to admit it to the AME. From open heart surgery and stroke to PTSD and diabetes, it is possible to qualify for an FAA medical certificate with more conditions than most pilots suspect. No pill makes that any different no weekly conversation with an over-paid, disinterested asshole makes it different either. Before treatment, when I was sleepy, FAA wasnt concerned. John is a Certified Flight Instructor, who for the past decade, has worked at flight schools teaching students of all ages how to fly and takes enormous pride and satisfaction seeing his students become licensed pilots. TH REASON IS FOR INJURIES I RECIEVED WHEN MY 01 LANDED WITH OUT A RUNWAY. Returning home, the Civil Aviation Medical Board cleared me for flying. Hmm cant spell worth a darn mostly dumb fingers will that get me rejected??? I take my family on flights in my aircraft and there is no way I am going to put them at risk. On the subject of medical self certification, read the announcement by the AOPA and the EAA. However the CAA would not accept the word of the doctors at the hospital nor my own doctor and insisted I had to follow the procedure. I hope the FAA box didnt kill more. However, if you do get caught, at best you will lose your license. Before submitting your application, you will be required to review the penalties above, certify that you know the FAA will be scrutinizing your medical history, and authorize the National Driver Register to provide the FAA with a copy of your driving record. Accident investigators at every crash look for signs of incapacitation and collect items such as medication containers to try to determine if a medical reason caused the crash. You can ask the Civil Aerospace Medical Institute for statistics on fatalities in which medical conditions were either the direct cause or a contributing factor. We all know that volume of cars on the roads vs. number of planes in the air leads to have to deal with more idiots on the ground. As for lying on the medical form, lies can be undiscovered for a lifetime of flying, but if there is an incident or accident, the FAA and/or NTSB will dredge up every doctor visit, medication, hospitalization they can. Then, I initiated actions to get tested, never dreaming that FAA would punish me for being conscientious and wanting to be fully alert. When I joined the military, it popped up at MEPs and I had to complete a waiver but I was allowed to go to boot camp. 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I mean no offense, but other adults telling another adult whether or not to disclose something on a medical just doesn't seem right. The bottom line is,if you cant be truthfull to yourself,you cant be truthfull at all. I have been flying for 39 years and professionally since I was 18. Required fields are marked *. To self certify? Specifically, those questions are question 17 (the question about current use of medications), question 18m (the question about mental disorders of any sort), and question 19 (the question about visits to healthcare professionals in the past 3 years). I hope the AOPA and the EAA will also move quickly, and I want to thank both organizations for this effort. There are about 450-500 deaths per year in ALL of general aviation. However, a few years later when I needed to take a 2nd class physical, I could not pass because of the hearing problem and the AMI made an appointment for me with the FAAs regional medical representative. Fly over open country and probably be able to put the plane down in a field if there were trouble but the FAA has a BIG resounding NO for that. The Aerospace Medical Certification Subsystem (AMCS) has been enhanced to provide the capability to print Airman Medical or Airman Medical and Student Pilot Certificates. Im just grateful to have my medical and hope to keep it however long I have to have it. Comparatively, what I take is barely more than a prescription grade Imodium AD. Good Luck. Congress should forbid the FAA from requiring any medical for recreational flying. A separate authorization request is required for each record released to any third party (physician, insurance company, employer, etc.). My first flightdoctor told me he was very happy about having pilots as clients. For what do you have special issuance? That question cant be removed from the form easily, so you have the option of clicking the box labelled International or declining to provide and leaving the field blank. You actually do have a point and I think the same thing sometimes if people want to be private pilots they shouldnt even have to carry a third class medical just their drivers license. Additionally, I believe this would be a tremendous economic boon for the industry as a whole. Self certification is where the FAA should focus their energy. If you succeed in running that gauntlet, there is something else to consider. I was just having so much fun and I didnt realize just how difficult it was going to be. Alternatively, upon 90-days of discontinuation of medication, you can potentially undergo the requested neuropsychological testing prescribed by the FAA. Youre making a mistaken assumption that its never a safety issue. I stopped learning to fly as I did not have the additional funds to have the CAA medical. They want to approve, not deny medicals. While my husband sailed through after having lied. The standards are too strict and the FAA bases thier decisions (especially on medication) on generalizaitons instead of listening to the pilots and doctors. Also, if you are too young for that, they can check other insurance companies and, apparently, a company, McKesson I believe, that gathers and compiles statistical data from and for insurance companies. The SIC will pull the body out of HIS brand new seat. Once everything is done and documented properly,they should issue the medical quickly. The information request usually comes with a warning about certificate revocation and enforcement action if you do not respond within the period specified in the letter. I reported controlled hypertension on my questionnaire. Get thorough guidance on how to proceed. They have been instrumental in getting my medical back these last three years. 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